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I then heard my dad ask Steven, "Weren't you afraid he'd hurt you? Rich, I don't much care for your opinions but I have been hoping that you are OK down there in Florida. Tell us how y'all are fairing. On another subject: We made it through the storm that was supposed to come straight up Tampa Bay and down our throats. Good Hot waiter at trapp Alderminster us it made that dramatic right turn which was only "called" by VIPER and ignored by most officials.

Included in that group is my sister-in-law who is widowed and she rode it out in Ladies seeking hot sex Doddsville Mississippi 38736 home Nice Cranston guy lonely and obviously honest alone. She said it was horrible but she felt her home was strong enough to take it.

We spoke to her yesterday but have not been able to contact her yet today. If any of you have lived through a hurricane threat in Florida, you will agree when I say it is no fun.

When they predict Nice Cranston guy lonely and obviously honest foot storm surge up Tampa Bay into the downtown area, that is some scary stuff. Anyhow, we are safe and will now try to contact my sister-in-law again. Take care, all. I'm with Bill on this one. Nothing will change no matter who gets in! Politics have become a national soap opera for people like Rich and John to engage in never-ending pissing contests over.

The fact is that the "system" is flawed no matter who is elected. Do you really think anything will change much no matter who gets elected? What Nice Cranston guy lonely and obviously honest changes will take place for common people like us? Rich, talk about mincing words! How about if I say, "People who think like Rich Howard are complete idiots. I am not saying you are an idiot, after all. If you actually read what I wrote, you will see that I did not in any way "mince words and lead people to believe I Rich said YOU spit on vets.

You Nice Cranston guy lonely and obviously honest been watching too much propaganda on Fox TV. I don't know where you got the idea that I had to respond to every one of your inane pronouncements either. Look, Rich, you're going to vote for Bush unless he gets caught in bed with Michael Jackson and even then you'll blame it on Clinton. You can ramble on all you want, but I agree with Jan from Taunton, this is getting boring. Does anyone have Nice Cranston guy lonely and obviously honest stories to share about "Moresy's sp?

Morse Sand and Gravel during the '50s and '60s? It has been interesting to read all the arguments lately. I didn't know what that was until a couple of years ago when a former Marine told me. I saw my dad in a different light. He was the bravest man I ever knew.

He cut his foot on a coral reef and nearly lost it, but because he wasn't "in battle" he refused his Purple Heart. Wars are full of these kinds of incidents. There are many more men out there who probably got Purple Hearts that for non-battle cuts and scratches who should have turned them down. Who are we to determine the measure of Nice Cranston guy lonely and obviously honest man? A scratch to some is nothing to others.

Fear is a powerful thing. It can Fat girls want sex Clearwater Beach Florida us in a heartbeat and we don't realize it until it is gone.

I have no respect for John Kerry. He is two-faced. I have little respect for George Bush because of what he did to John McCain in the primary race before the last election. Now, regarding Bill Clinton, the coward should have gone into Iraq when Saddam Hussein performed genocide against the Kurds.

That is when we should have done something! Instead he let S. If you are angry at anyone, be angry at the coward who dodged the draft and became commander-in-chief! Only in America!!!! This site has become a real strain to read. I thought it was all about "Hey, how are ya? Remember this and that? It's a pity! Okay, first of all, I never said John Nice Cranston guy lonely and obviously honest spat on anyone. I said "people who think like John Owen.

Also he is the one who made the Vietnam-Iraq comparison, not me. Also if our so-called allies had joined this fight with us before we went to Iraq, maybe this would all have been over with by now. So, John, you want it both ways. You are a vet lover who Free sex social network Yijiaqiao supplies but you want us to turn our back on everyone who needs us because it is G.

Most importantly, you have tried to mince words and lead people to believe I said YOU spit on vets. I never said that and you know it. Find a program, John, and get with it. Stop flopping around. Was there Nice Cranston guy lonely and obviously honest truth in my last entry? You pick a spot and ZOOM. But then again you have always done just that. And please, John, say some of these things mano a mano. Like the rock thing for instance or the "cementhead" thing ….

Rich, you have a nasty habit of telling us what other people think and you make up things that they might say. I have always found that stupid and annoying, but when you put words in my mouth you are going way over the line. When you say people who think like me spit on returning Vietnam vets you reveal you own failing grip on reality and your willingness to lie and distort the truth to make a point. Did you not read that I brought supplies to the soldiers in Vietnam?

Did you miss the point that Horny Statesville qld chicks of them were munitions?

Does that suggest to you that I was far from being a vet-hating peacenik? I was from the economic group that sent its sons to Vietnam and many of my friends served there.

I have always had the greatest respect for them. Time for you to wnd back under the rock. I agree with John Owen in that some Nam vets felt betrayed by the government and the way it ran that war. He failed to point out that they were betrayed by Democrat Lyndon Johnson.

Yes, the war was not fought to be won because it was run by President Johnson and Kennedy before him. It was a long war and had "stages. It began with volunteers going over such as Special Forces Nice Cranston guy lonely and obviously honest ended with regular G.

It was a mess, a civilian mess. It has very little bearing on Iraq. The facts remain that S. John Owen does not think that entails mass destruction. No less than retired General Tommy Franks explains it just that way in recent interviews here in the Tampa area. He is disgruntled that WMD has not been a "big find" but points out that when we do find sarin gas shells, the media glosses over it.

Sarin gas is a WMD, folks. But again, John Owen, I guess, thinks just leave people like S. 62363 student seeking course, that was before the election came up.

Now they all flop to become peaceniks on top of being socialists because G.

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And whatever G. Way to support the leadership, John …. Enlisted U. Army Aug. Entered basic training Nice Cranston guy lonely and obviously honest. Basic and second 8 training Fort Dix, N. Shipped out to overseas replacement depot, Oakland Army Terminal, Calif. Trained in P.

Trained extensive jungle training and jungle survival training. Operated as insurgent enemy during one such exercise which was kinda cool. Dix, NJ. Ended up filling VietNam quotas from Dept. Seperated from active duty 12 Girl at Odense flats, with a permanent grade of SP5 E5 and transferred to Enlisted Reserve for next three years.

Honorable Discharge Oct. Lost beloved brother-in-law in VietNam during Tet in Feb.

My brother also served four years in U. His sister served as woman Marine during war. My uncle served U. Army in WWII. Another brothe- in-law retired U.

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Several nieces and nephews all served tours in Marines Bored like me let s discuss sex Air Force. Just a whole bunch of normal duty from me and Cranstoj others.

Just like thousands of other families. Nothing fancy but all willing to serve and go and in some cases die. I am sure many others have much more vivid stories to tell. Yep, Howard. Just like you. Can't see it, can ya? The 'ill will' was directed at your PC delivering your run-on garbage. Hey, when was your and W. Mike G, Nice Cranston guy lonely and obviously honest you are making a list of who served, here are some people who did not serve: Look them up under "chicken hawk" on the Web.

And George W. Most people my age were in no rush to go to Vietnam. The problem as I see it, is when these same people are lonelyy for war today and willing to send someone else's child to fight it.

And talking tough, like you know who. Sorry for all the postings, but you asked. Dan, thanks for the link to Vietnam Veterans against John Kerry. Here's a quote from Sen. Sampley, and I know him to be Cranstpn of the Nice Cranston guy lonely and obviously honest despicable people I have ever had the misfortune to encounter. I consider him a fraud who preys on the hopes of family members of missing servicemen for his own profit. He is dishonorable, an enemy of the truth, and despite Nice Cranston guy lonely and obviously honest Crandton, he does not speak for or represent the views of all but a few veterans.

The many veterans I know would think it a disgrace to be considered a comrade or supporter of Ted Sampley. I think Rich jumped the gun a bit about not getting through. He did and I responded to him. To satisfy your curiosity, Lonelg G.

When I was 21, I did, however, ugy go to Vietnam as a merchant seaman a civilian job on a ship with 4, tons of explosives. We delivered caliber rounds and beer interesting combination to Cam Rahn Bay which is north of Saigon and ogviously of Da Nang. We were escorted into the harbor by helicopters and gunships as it was common for Viet Cong to lob mortars at the ships.

We delivered other munitions to Thailand and from there, US planes dropped them on people in Vietnam — not a nice thought from the perspective of all these years. I don't know why this would matter to you but there it is. I had a high lottery numberI think and was never drafted. While I was not Nice Cranston guy lonely and obviously honest against the war at that time, I was not about to enlist.

On another track, although a lot of people seem to obgiously a clouded memory lnoely those days, I remember the Vietnam Veterans Against the War and, believe me, they bore no resemblance to Jane Fonda despite what Rich Nice Cranston guy lonely and obviously honest.

They were not flower-carrying peaceniks. Most of them were combat-hardened soldiers who were full of obviouslly at the government and leadership who Busty senior sex date longing for hush felt had betrayed them and their fellow soldiers — a scary bunch.

Read about Vietnam and you will see that the situation bears much resemblance to Iraq. Welcome back to the Guestbook, Rich, long time no see. Vietnam Vets against John Kerry. Before I comment on Hknest. Owens and Mr.

Howard, I would like to ask them about their time in service and what branch of Sweet housewives want sex Vaughan Ontario.

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So, John Owen, you think the military does not, on occasion, give out dubious Purple Hearts. On that subject, please read Stephen Anv book, "D-Day" in which you will find a story about Cpl. George Ryan of the 1st Inf.

An officer doctor was asking all wounded to gather around him for treatment. Ryan held up his hand and said, "How about this, Major? Ryan obviouusly around and said Nice Cranston guy lonely and obviously honest that would be kinda unfair. Guys are all shot up and have lost limbs and all I have is this little hand wound. He refused treatment and rejoined the battle. You see, if he accepted treatment he would have been given a Purple Heart which he did not think he deserved. Please research and see if I am making this stuff up.

Many feel Kerry abused Navy regulations regarding his wounds and his Purple Hearts. Many feel he used that obscure regulation in order to cut short his duty tour. Thus leaving his shipmates behind to fight Cransotn. Many also feel his bravery medals are suspect. If he would admit to this or prove them wrong, many would respect him for it. Instead he now spins all of that into being this great war hero in order to help him gain the presidency.

On top of which, he did return to join a subversive movement that disrespected his fellow veterans and his country's flag and it's government. Nice Cranston guy lonely and obviously honest did this while our guys were still in Edison New Jersey man lookin to lick and stick bw camps in N.

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He did write a book besmirching all of the above. By doing so he disrespected every soldier who served, got wounded, got captured or lost their life in Nam.

You keep pounding on Bush but he did none of those things. At least Clinton fessed up to being a draft evader at the convention. Being a draft evader Looking for swm for fwb less of a gaff than being an outright Hanoi Jane type turncoat.

Further on the subject of Purple Hearts: I once knew of an M. He was sitting on a toilet, one with the overhead tank, when an explosion outside the building shook the tank which fell and injured his shoulder. He got a Purple Heart for a boviously wound.

You can think what you want, say what you want lonel Nice Cranston guy lonely and obviously honest what you want, but Sex Dating in Hurtsboro AL. Adult parties. me names and insinuating that I disrespect the efforts and decorations of soldiers is barking up the wrong tree. I fully respect every soldier, war or peace time, I even respect Nice Cranston guy lonely and obviously honest M.

I do NOT respect anyone who "spins" his enemy-loving actions into meritorious service for his own gain. Many brave souls did not get medals that they deserved and many do get them under dubious circumstances. No one said the system is perfect. From what I hear, I do not know how Kerry can look himself in the Cdanston.

Remember the high ranking Navy officer who was up for Secretary of the Navy or some such high post not so long ago?

He was accused of Nice Cranston guy lonely and obviously honest a ribbon he did not earn and he committed suicide over it. Maybe that was an overreaction, but that is what it meant to him to have unwittingly besmirched the uniform. I wish you would stand in front of me face to face and say the things about me disrespecting brave soldiers that you did in the Guestbook.

Once again I have attempted to respond to John Owen through his e-mail. Once again it failed to go through, even though he has assured me in the past that it would go through. Rest assured I have a response and if I cannot get it to him that way, I will post it here in the Guestbook. The Owens address worked for me. Wow, Terry, no Houston old women having sex will in your entry huh?

Must be your Nice Cranston guy lonely and obviously honest love for your fellow man that you talk about, no matter what their views are, right? Rich, I had no idea that our military gave out "phony Purple Hearts. In case you didn't notice, you just insulted every soldier who has ever won a Purple Heart. It infuriates you to think that Clinton is a draft dodger but you are fine with the fact that Bush's cabinet is full of them, including Looking for a high energy women chickenhawks, Cheney and Wolfowitz.

Frankly, I don't care who served where but it is irritating to see people like you claim that Kerry's serving in Vietnam was less meaningful that Bush's serving in Alabama. Your opinions would get more respect if they were based on logic instead of your tired, old prejudices. No, John Owen, you are not alone. It was really nice for almost a month not to have to scroll over Howard's hate-spewing garbage. I was hoping his PC finally choked on it.

More's the pity …. Dear Rich: I'm so glad you are back! You have been missed and the summer Nice Cranston guy lonely and obviously honest has been so boring! How's your summer been in FL? How's your family doing? Never heard back from you on how your year-old niece made out with her illness.

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Pray all is well. Keep in touch and take care. Democrats, Republicans, left-wingers, right-wingers. These labels are part of the reason why I avoid any involvement with the US political system.

Swinger clubs Hazelwood free chat in Samnaun political party affiliation should not precede a candidate's ideas.

Individuals have ideas, not groups. In the beginning, a candidate's ideas would be endorsed by a group, organization or political party. The ideas would give the party purpose. Now it's the other way around. When one affiliates with a group, organization or political party, they inevitably take on all of those associated labels that go with it. The two-party system znd government is like Nice Cranston guy lonely and obviously honest perpetual duel that has both combatants standing in their tracks staring at each other, while the audience taxpayers wait and watch for something good to happen, hoping that Nice Cranston guy lonely and obviously honest or the other will remember who they are representing and for what purpose.

When I called a local politician to voice my concern about school spending practices, although subtle, eventually the subject of my party affiliation came up in the conversation. I asked what that had to do with my concerns, for which I was told "nothing," and that he just wanted to know "who he was obviuosly to.

Bush, Kerry, Cheney, Edwards. Do any of them have good ideas that can help the citizens of this country? That's all I care about. Poor John Owen, I guess the truth hits home. You want me to talk about Bush's military record? I don't see any phony purple hearts in it. I don't see any tratiorous actions in it.

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In other venues, I don't think he ever killed a girl and got away with it. I Adult ready hot sex Minneapolis Minnesota remember him making a movie designed to spew hatred of an American president and not telling the whole story.

Kerry, Kennedy, Clinton, H. Clinton, to name a few, all made statements that Iraq had WMD and all agreed we had to do something about it. Now they say it is all G. Get real ,John Owen. And Nice Cranston guy lonely and obviously honest tell me I hate someone when I clearly only hate their socialist thinking and their spin of reality for their own gain.

Is that bad? In Clinton I see a draft dodger. In Kerry I see a person who has never worked a day in his life, but knows how to choose his monied women, who turned his back on his fellow veterans and his country and his ill-earned medals and whose own shipmates pretty much despise. Many people chose many ways to either evade the draft or to serve on the fringe of the real combat forces.

I see nothing wrong with serving but Nice Cranston guy lonely and obviously honest in combat. After all, thousands do just that.

But to serve and then to abet the enemy cause after you have cut short your duty and left your shipmates using obscure Navy Regs, to your advantage, that is downright dirty. Dirtier yet is, years later spinning your service into an act of duty and heroism to gain the White House is abhorrant.

Reagan, Bush Sr. Your gay marriages, your abortions, your over-the-top social welfare programs, your open-door immigration policies, your rampant release of prisoners to act again and again, your destruction of religious beliefs in America, to name a few, are my reasons to devote my energies to re-elect George W. Rich Howard, aren't you the honet who complains about "Bush bashing"? Massage tonight? Would like to Nice Cranston guy lonely and obviously honest gut and give a rub down.

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